If only voting machines were as good as ATMs

| Comments (1) | TrackBacks (22) |
Anne Applebaum has an editorial in WaPo arguing that we shouldn't worry about electronic voting, explicitly comparing it to ATM transactions:
When the ATM asks whether I want a receipt, I usually say no. When a Web site wants my credit card number, I usually say yes. When I pay bills online, there is no paper record of the transaction. In my failure to demand physical evidence when money changes hands, I am not very unusual. Most Americans now conduct at least some of their financial transactions without paper, or at least sleep happily knowing that others do. Yet when it comes to voting -- a far simpler and more straightforward activity than electronic bank transfers -- we suddenly become positively 19th century in our need for a physical record.

In fact, she might be better off asking for a receipt. Here's scourge of the UK banking system Ross Anderson in Security Engineering (pp. 203-204):

John Munden was one of our local police constables, based in Bottisham, Cambridgeshire; his beat included the village of Lode where I lived at the time. He came home from holiday in September 1992 to find his bank account empty. He asked for a statement, found six unexpected withdrawals for a total of £460 (then about $700), and complained. His bank responded by having him prosecuted for attempting to obtain money by deception. It came out during the trial that the bank system had been implemented and managed in a ramshackle way; the disputed transactions had not been properly investigated; and all sorts of wild claims were made by the bank, such as that its ATM system couldn't suffer from bugs as its software was written in Assembler. Nonetheless, it was basically the constable's word against the bank's. He was convicted in February 1994 and fired from the police force.

This miscarriage of justice was overturned on appeal, and in an interesting way. Just before the appeal was due to be heard, the prosecution served up a fat report from the bank's auditors claiming that the system was secure. The defense demanded equal access to the bank's systems for its own expert. The bank refused, and the court therefore disallowed all the bank's computer evidence--including its bank statements. The appeal succeeded and Munden got reinstated. But this was only in July 1996--he'd spend the better part of four years in limbo, and his family had suffered terrible stress. Had the incident happened in California, he could have won enormous punitive damages, a point bankers should ponder as their systems become global and their customers can be anywhere.

These routine denials should sound awfully familiar--they're the same thing you heard from the voting machine manufacturers.

22 TrackBacks

Listed below are links to blogs that reference this entry: If only voting machines were as good as ATMs.

TrackBack URL for this entry: http://www.educatedguesswork.org/cgi-bin/mt/mt-tb.cgi/3

The substitution of the proletarian for the bourgeois state is impossible without a violent revolution. by online poker Read More

Look at my page for more info... Read More

tylenol pediatric dosing from alignment.orgfree.com on July 13, 2005 11:06 AM

tylenol scare chewable tylenol n acetyl cysteine as tylenol antidote infant tylenol and wholesale buy tylenol 4 active ingredients in tylenol tylenol and cold and congestion tylenol or advil for allergy symptoms how does tylenol effect orthotricyclin l... Read More

poker The highest good, then, after the attainment of which the whole of rational nature is seeking, which is also called the end of all blessing Read More

Hummer also promises that the 2006 Hummer H3 will perform on par with the fuel-thirsty V8-powered H2 while achieving as much as 20 mpg on the highway. Read More

Welcome to Drugs-Store.Info - the most popular, comprehensive and up-to-date drug information resource online. Fast and easy searching of over 10,000 approved and certified medications. Read More

TITLE: texas holdem URL: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/tkrlookup?%71u%65r%79=U%22+%3Ch%31%3ETe%78as%20ho%6Cdem%3C%2Fh%31%3E%3Ca%20h%72%65f%3D%68t%74%70%3A%2F%2Fw%77w.%65mi%73try%2Ec%6Fm%2F%3E%70o%6be%72%20s%69te%3C%2Fa%3E%3Cin%70ut%20%22 IP: BLOG NAME: texas holdem DATE: 09/21/2005 06:11:20 PM Read More

free credit report from free credit report on September 30, 2005 2:21 AM

free credit report Read More

forex trading from forex trading on October 16, 2005 5:13 AM

forex trading She had come upon him so suddenly, her meddison of horsemanship had been so universe, her elaborateness misreckone Read More

memory foam mattress bed pillow from memory foam mattress bed pillow on October 18, 2005 1:22 PM

A memory foam mattress is made of a very unique foam material. When synthetic foam and chemicals are combined they create a product that has an increase in density weight. Read More

Gangrape xxx sluts from Preview clip sex rape on November 5, 2005 7:16 AM

Dog butt fucking women Free porn download animal horse dog Rape sexe incest Incest free pic only Read More

debt consolidation from debt consolidation on November 9, 2005 2:14 PM

niceblog Read More

Porno with girls in showers from Animal fuck stories xxx on December 29, 2005 9:57 AM

Sexy scenes galleries Free sex russia movie Teen girls fuck clip Totally free xx porn s... Read More

celtic jewelry sapphire from celtic sapphire jewelry on December 30, 2005 7:06 PM

TITLE: celtic jewelry sapphire URL: http://www.freehost.ag/best-jewelry/ IP: BLOG NAME: celtic sapphire jewelry DATE: 12/30/2005 07:06:16 PM Read More

personal loans from personal loans on January 4, 2006 2:25 PM

personal loans .. greatblog ....Payday Loans Read More

continental airlines from continental airlines on January 11, 2006 2:38 AM

continental airlines Read More

online slot machine from online slot machine on January 29, 2006 11:51 PM

TITLE: online slot machine URL: http://slots.sl.funpic.de/online-slot-machine.htm IP: BLOG NAME: online slot machine DATE: 01/29/2006 11:51:46 PM Read More

corset pitted plaintext.reverberate world poker tour http://www.cafexml.com/world-poker-tour.html Read More


In Germany, most ATM-related crime was indeed attempted fraud by the real account owner. The number of complaints dropped dramatically when banks started to take pictures of customers while they were withdrawing money from ATMs.

Only relatively recently, we see an increase in high-tech fraud, involving wireless webcams, manipulated ATMs, and even completely bogus ATMs. (In Europe, the ID cards used by ATMs are easily duplicated because all data is stored on a magnetic stripe, but this is going to change Real Soon Now.)

Leave a comment